Everyone makes their own way here on October 11. Once we're together, Chai takes the lead for two proper, unhurried days.
OCT 11
Land. Meet up. Ease in.Different flights, different arrival times. No packed arrival-day agenda.
OCT 12 + 13
Leave it to the local.Two full days for Chai to show us around. If he needs us to plan anything, just say the word.
OCT 14
Next stop: Saigon.Fly to Vietnam. Exact flight still to be chosen.
The anchor: everyone meets in Bangkok on October 11.
Nine days, at a glance (Click a day to expand)
OCTOBER
Pick a day to explore that city. Travel days open the destination.
Working plan: fly midday October 16, about an hour to Da Nang, then taxi to Hoi An. Arrive in the afternoon and visit the tailors that day. Exact flight still TBD.
BANGKOK / OCTOBER 11 TO 14
Chai leads the way.
Meet on the 11th, two full days with our man on the inside, then fly to Saigon on the 14th. Room for Chai to show us his city.
Things to do
Leaving this one in Chai’s hands. His ideas will go here as the plan takes shape.
Lodging
Three nights: October 11, 12 and 13. Place still to be chosen; nothing booked.
Ideas for Bangkok?
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Saigon, officially Ho Chi Minh City, is Vietnam’s southern economic hub. Think busy streets, coffee stops, food, markets and grand old buildings alongside a modern skyline.
Our starting pocket is central District 1: Bến Thành, Đồng Khởi and the Little Japan alleys. Explore in short walks, with plenty of stops along the way.
Arrive October 14 · Full city day October 15 · Leave midday October 16
Where are we sleeping?
Two nights: October 14 and 15. Check out October 16. Both options are available. Nothing booked yet.
OPTION A · HOTEL EASE
New World Saigon Hotel
Slept-on luxury. Pun intended.
The appeal
A proper high-end hotel. Your own room, with the practical bits taken care of.
The extras
Outdoor pool, fitness center, restaurants and bars, plus a 24-hour concierge. Help is downstairs.
The trade-off
Hotel amenities are shared. Hanging out together means meeting in a room, the lobby or a bar.
On foot
76 Lê Lai, close to Ben Thanh Market. The more convenient base of these two for our planned wandering.
Photos supplied from the hotel and Airbnb listing; tap to enlarge.
Things to do
IDEAS, NOT OBLIGATIONS
BROWSE / EAT / BARGAIN
Bến Thành Market
The big covered market with the clock tower. Browse souvenirs, pause for something to eat, and see what catches your eye.
Make room for
1 to 2 hours, longer if lunch or shopping takes over.
Good timing
Morning for browsing. The city tourism guide lists daily hours of 6am to 7pm; individual stalls vary. Evening food stalls around the market are another possibility.
Small tip
Bring small VND notes. Bargain politely on souvenirs where prices are negotiable.
Boutiques, galleries and colonial-era facades, with the Opera House and Lam Sơn Square near one end of the central stretch and the river farther along.
Make room for
A short stroll, or a leisurely hour with stops.
Make a loop
Connect the Opera House, Nguyễn Huệ walking street, the Central Post Office and Notre Dame area. No need to march through it all at once.
The mood
Look up at the buildings. Duck in for coffee. Keep wandering.
Flowers by the armful, food in the surrounding lanes. Come hungry in the evening, or come much later to watch the flower trade get to work. Two very different versions of a night out.
For the food
Go in the evening. Food stalls generally run from about 3pm to 11pm; individual hours vary. Our suggestion: leave 1 to 2 hours for grazing and wandering.
For the flowers
The flower market operates around the clock, with deliveries busy around midnight to 3am. A possibility for the night owls, rather than a promise of an all-night food market.
A separate outing
Alley 52 Hồ Thị Kỷ, in the District 10 area. Outside our central District 1 cluster; a taxi or Grab would make this an easy separate excursion.
Put a river between us and the city, then admire it from a comfortable distance. The Thủ Thiêm waterfront looks back toward District 1, with Bitexco and the downtown towers lighting up across the water.
Make an evening of it
Arrive before sunset, wander along the river, and stay as the skyline lights come on. Our suggestion: about an hour, longer if nobody feels like moving.
Getting there
Take a Grab or taxi to the Thủ Thiêm side. Check the journey time before leaving; evening traffic can change the calculation.
The simpler alternative
If we’re already downtown, Bạch Đằng offers a riverfront stroll on the District 1 bank. For the view back across at downtown, cross to Thủ Thiêm.
A turn off the main street, a table, and no particular hurry. Ghé Coffee on Mạc Thị Bưởi gives us a concrete starting point for a quieter pause between city stops.
Start here
Ghé Coffee, 39/10 Mạc Thị Bưởi. Use this branch’s map pin, then walk into the alley from the street.
Make it a coffee stop
The café lists daily hours of 8am to 7pm. Our suggestion: an unhurried 45 minutes, with permission to stay longer.
If it turns into an evening
An apartment café or rooftop could be the next move. We can choose a drinks venue separately; this café is the daytime option.
A small Pasteur alley, a bowl of beef phở, and a good reason to be awake. Phở Minh has been feeding the city since 1945. Some breakfast habits deserve to survive.
Find it
63/6 Pasteur, District 1. Head into the alley rather than looking for a big street-front dining room.
Go early
Michelin notes a 10am close and the possibility of food running out. Make this breakfast, not a late brunch; check the day’s hours before setting off.
Keep it loose
A possibility for a free morning. Our suggestion: allow around 45 minutes, then see who wants coffee.
A little of the city getting on with its day. The Chợ Cũ area around Tôn Thất Đạm offers a modest market-street wander, with food stops and older streets tucked among the downtown towers.
The idea
Browse whatever is trading, find a snack if something appeals, and keep walking. This is a short detour, not an expedition.
Where it fits
Central District 1, around the Tôn Thất Đạm and Hàm Nghi area. It can lead naturally into a walk toward the river.
Leave room for chance
Our suggestion: 20 to 40 minutes. The old market has changed over time, so expect a living neighborhood rather than a preserved attraction.
An evening on the river with a little more movement. Saigon River Tour pairs a speedboat outing with a cocktail stop ashore. A possibility when we feel like making something of the evening.
The shape
Allow about two hours. The operator lists a 5pm departure from Saigon Waterbus, with arrival at least 20 minutes beforehand.
The drink
One cocktail or mocktail at the riverside venue, plus beer or soft drinks and light snacks on the boat. The cocktail stop is ashore.
The company
A shared small-group tour, listed for up to 16 guests. A private boat would be a separate arrangement. Departure details and availability for our dates still need confirming.
A larger boat, an open skydeck, and a drink while the skyline does its thing. The straightforward option for a polished sunset outing without turning the evening into a full dinner cruise.
The shape
The current sunset schedule boards from 4pm, sails at 5pm and docks at 6pm. Confirm the schedule for whichever evening we choose.
Pick the package
Options include a drink, a drink with food, or food with one hour of free-flow drinks. Choose the package that matches the evening.
Where to start
ICON Saigon lists its address as 05 Nguyễn Tất Thành, District 4. Confirm the boarding instructions before heading over. This is a shared cruise, with nothing booked.
Bến Thành, Đồng Khởi and Little Japan form a central cluster. Hồ Thị Kỷ and the Thủ Thiêm riverfront are separate outings. None of it is a compulsory circuit. Walking time depends on the exact stop, crossings and heat; use the map links when we know where we’re staying.
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HOI AN / OCTOBER 16 TO 19
Settle in. Suit up. Leave room.
Morning in Saigon on the 16th, then a midday flight to Da Nang and a taxi to Hoi An. Settle in during the afternoon and make the first tailor visit.
Things to do
The beach, countryside, a little expedition, or nowhere in particular. Plenty of ways to spend the day.
Lodging
Three nights: October 16, 17 and 18. Checkout at noon on the 19th, then homeward via Da Nang. Place still to be chosen.
Old Town convenience or a place by the beach?
Three nights: October 16, 17 and 18. Checkout noon October 19. Two options under review. Nothing booked yet.
These are only about 3.5 to 4 km apart: roughly 10 to 15 minutes by Grab or taxi, or 20 minutes by bike. A short hop for dinner, a fitting, or whatever we have in mind. No great geographical commitment required.
OPTION A · DAN’S PICK
ÊMM Hotel Hoi An
Our man has put people here before.
The appeal
Dan’s recommendation, and a hotel he uses for his tour guests. Near Ancient Town, with an easy walk into the old streets.
The setup
Two rooms for the four of us. A single suite sleeps up to three, so it would not cover the group.
The extras
A shared pool, restaurants and a 24-hour front desk. Hotel ease, with help downstairs.
The trade-off
Separate rooms and shared amenities, rather than a whole house to ourselves.
Pick what sounds good. The days are ours. Time allowances below are rough planning estimates, including travel from central Hoi An unless noted. October can bring rain, so we can choose the outdoor outings around the weather.
BEACH / SEAFOOD / NO GREAT AMBITION
An Bang: lunch becomes an afternoon
Seafood, a beachfront table, and something cold. A little sea air, with no obligation to turn it into a productive day.
The shape
Allow 2 to 4 hours, or just come for lunch. Around a 10-minute drive from the Ancient Town.
Keep it loose
Best on a clear day. Keep swimming and beach plans dependent on the weather and sea conditions.
A nearby change of scene among the vegetable gardens. Wander, stop for lunch, or get more involved with a cooking class. Fresh air, fresh herbs, reasonably fresh gentlemen.
The shape
About 2 hours for gardens and lunch. Allow half a day if we choose a cooking class.
Keep it loose
An easy countryside outing. The exact class and timing are still ours to choose.
Shrines tucked inside limestone caves, pagodas, and views toward the coast. A proper little expedition when we feel like seeing something beyond the next fitting room.
The shape
Allow 3 to 4 hours including travel from Hoi An.
Keep it loose
The more physical option: expect steps and uneven ground. Better saved for dry weather.
Ruined Cham temples in a green valley. A proper history outing, preferably with a guide who can explain what we are admiring beyond its impressive age.
The shape
Allow 4 to 5 hours, including roughly an hour’s drive each way.
Keep it loose
A half-day outing for when we feel like getting out of town.
Start at the market, take a riverboat to the cooking school, explore the herb garden, and make lunch. Finally, an activity where eating is part of the curriculum.
The shape
The listed half-day program runs about 8:15am to 12:45pm.
Keep it loose
Market visit, boat ride, hands-on cooking, and lunch. October availability and departure details still need checking.
Visit the Cham Sculpture Museum, then head toward My Khe for a meal by the sea. Something to look at, something to eat, and a different stretch of coast.
The shape
Allow half a day from Hoi An.
Keep it loose
Could also work after checkout on October 19, once the flight and luggage arrangements are settled.
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Same trip. Room to do your thing.
John and Steve will settle into Hoi An, meet Dan-G and his group, and get clothes made. Luzzo and Chai can stay, explore, take a day trip, or head off on their own adventure.
No roll calls. No offense taken. We'll catch up over a meal.
STILL UP FOR DISCUSSION
A few loose ends.
Saigon to Da Nang 01
Working plan: fly midday October 16. About an hour to Da Nang, then taxi to Hoi An for an afternoon arrival and a first tailor visit. Exact flight still TBD; nothing booked.
Places to stay 02
Hotels still need choosing. Bangkok for three nights, Saigon for two nights, and Hoi An as the relaxed base.
Fittings & side adventures 03
John and Steve want enough Hoi An time for lots of clothing and fittings, from the afternoon of October 16 through the morning of October 19. We’ll arrange fitting appointments around what we want to do.
The flight home 04
October 19 via Da Nang (DAD), after checking out of Hoi An at noon. Working shape: Korean Air around 11pm, homeward to Seattle (SEA). Exact flight still TBD and unbooked.
THIS IS EVERYONE'S TRIP
Have a better idea?
A detour, a place to stay, something we shouldn't miss. Choose a stop and add it to the conversation.